https://backpage.linkman.be/ https://backpage.linkminer.nl/ https://backpage.linknavigator.nl/ https://backpage.linkstartup.nl/ https://backpage.linktoevoegen.nl/ https://backpage.linkupdate.nl/ https://backpage.maakjestart.nl/ https://backpage.linknavy.nl/ 401 BuenaVista says: June 8, 2014 at 1:42 pm 1) I agree with Ciaran that feminism believes that men are (by nature and by choice) sexually indiscriminate. 2) I don’t agree that this lack of sexual discretion characterizes the manosphere. Though of course, here, one must ask “Which element of the manosphere?” because there is a world of difference between the conversations on J4G and those on Heartiste. Item 1) provides, perhaps the most insight. I would say that feminism *depends* upon a definition of men as rabid sexual dogs, because feminism is wedded to the notion of controlling, exploiting, and managing male interests. For example, the notion of “rape culture” is bankrupt if men aren’t indiscriminately prone to sexual violence. The assertion that 20% of college women are sexually violated, and all of the downstream rules, laws, and practices that are consequently imposed on men immediately vanish if men are seen as capable of self-restraint. In general, any of the feminist claims to superiority quickly become absurd if men are deemed capable of abstract thinking, institution-building, and innovation; we all know that these three qualities are voided by any human who can’t control himself. Item 2), manosphere’s supposed devotion to the idea of men as dogs-in-perpetual-heat, is fine as far as it goes, but I don’t think we go very far with this thought. There is the manosphere interest in evo psych and the “sperm cheap, eggs rare” trope. However, I think the manosphere’s emphasis on self-improvement, personal sovereignty, and personal accountability more than offsets any celebration it makes as regards universal seduction skills. Even in discussions of seduction skills one of the dominant tools there is the use of hierarchical numbering; defining one’s SMV, and that of women, is itself an attempt at rational discretion. *****